Thursday, January 23, 2020

A Debate among Facebook Friends

TORCASO V WATKINS 367 U.S. 488 (1961) declares secular humanism to be a religion.

2014: A federal judge in Oregon ruled that secular humanism is a religion. 

The following conversation followed the announcement that the Trump Administration is taking 3 steps to Boost Religious Freedom. 

My friend, with whom I shared this discussion then stated boldly, "We will not allow Americans to be bullied by fascist Christians. Pray whenever and wherever you want. But don't you waste one second of public school kids' education time with your nonsense."

 I have many questions here. 

1. Who is the "We" he refers to who will not allow Americans?
2. Are Christians not Americans? Why must they be held captive to the beliefs of the Secular Humanists amongst us? 
3. "Fascist"??????
Merriam Webster Dictionary Definition
Fascism definition is - a political philosophy, movement, or regime (such as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition.

Why does it look to me as if this post by my friend who says "We will not allow Americans does not include me? Because he labels me as a fascist Christian

Yet, all I am asking for is the privilege of getting my child educational opportunities out from under the statist rule of the Secular Humanists. 

He approves: 

Mike Stone What’s wrong with LGBTQ history? They have one, don’t they? Maybe studying their history will teach your kids tolerance.

And so you see the conclusions of those who argue that public money should only go to public schools are actually advocating secular humanism although they will not acknowledge that they are actually advocating an established religion.

What is their argument?

Mike Stone The wall of separation between church and state requires a bright-line rule: No public money to any but public schools.

Sharman Burson Ramsey No. It does not. Public schools were not in existence when the Constitution was written. That did not come to be until the Northwest Ordinance. The Constitution only says there will be no establishment of religion. Yet there has been establishment of Secular Humanism as the religion of public schools. As a consequence violence has Increased and morality declined. You are only advocating for your own religion. Money should follow the child whose parents should have the freedom to choose the school with the curriculum they approve so long as it does not encourage violence.

Mike Stone Sharman Burson Ramsey Public schools should be publicly funded. Parochial schools should be funded by their churches and parishioners. Period. And all churches should be taxed.

Sharman Burson Ramsey You are advocating a monopoly proselytizing YOUR religion!

Mike Stone Sharman Burson Ramsey No, I’m not. I’m advocating public education consistent with the First Amendment.

Sharman Burson Ramsey Freedom of speech and religion have been stifled while secular humanism is promoted in public schools. You approve because that agenda is your agenda. Of course you approve. Those of us who disagree must spend our children’s college money getting our children a good MORAL basic education. Yet not only do some people think we should support failed public schools but should pay their exorbitant college loans to universities that only teach contempt for those who pay the bills and sacrifice themselves paying for their own children’s early education rather than sacrificing them to the whims of the liberal agenda.

My friend makes exceptions for other religions

Listen to this Muslim feminist leader address the Fairfax County, Virginia Board of Education. It is alright for Muslim leaders to enter into the arena of the "public" schools. Just not Christians?

Yet, this is also to be taught in Public Schools. 

What is the consequence of all of this politicization of the classroom? 

Today's students and professors 'Know Hardly Anything about Anything at All'. And that is why Christian parents flee the public schools. Secular Humanism has resulted in a know nothing society vulnerable to shape shifting according to the whims of the ruling elite. 

Common Core led the way for ONE CURRICULUM THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY for all children. Secular Humanism won the day.

As a consequence, U. S. Student Test Scores Plummet again in Year 4 of Common Core.

San Diego State University Normalizes Pedophilia as a "Sexual Orientation". That is great for future teachers to think of their students. 

Planned Parenthood designed the sex-ed curriculum that through the concept of "integrated curriculum" would find a place in every subject. Planned Parenthood is also making a lot of money selling baby body parts.

Body parts buyers were 'Scalping the Babies,' Planned Parenthood Trial Reveals.

Leaders like Dr. Jordan Peterson says the government should get out of sex education altogether. 

Years ago with the establishment of the United Nations, Julian Huxley, the Director-General of UNESCO stated "It (UNESCO) can stress the ultimate need for world political unity and familiarize all peoples with the implications of the transfer of full sovereignty from separate nations to a world organization. 

 UNESCO is the United Nations Educational, Scientific and Cultural Organization. Notice EDUCATION. Their goal is world equity with the World Core Curriculum and we are their dupes. 

Dr. Jordan Peterson says the government should bet out of Sex Education altogether. Christian parents agree, but must flee public schools to do so!

 Common Core,  the public school monopoly, is based on the UN World Core Curriculum. The goal of this curriculum is to undermine patriotism and nationalism in favor of a one world government.

Should I consider the "my dear" a bit condescending?

And with this attitude toward our country and its people (his fellow Americans) he defends the public schools. Apparently it reflects my friend's belief system. It does not reflect mine. But who am I to object. Not someone who counts, it would appear.

But then, my friend teaches Constitutional Law.

But, what do I see?

The first Common Core Graduates are the worst prepared for college in 15 years and yet my friend would have our children chained to those failing schools. Poor children are slaves to those failing schools in that mindset. 

Just how many parts of the First Amendment are violated with Secular Humanism dominating our public schools? 

And... considering Tim Tebow's call for Christians to Stand Up for Christian Values ... What will we do about it? 

I do enjoy the give and take on Facebook. I have much respect for my friend. My friend, Mike Stone, is a brilliant, gifted man. This is from his firm's website: 

Sharman Burson Ramsey

Sharman Burson Ramsey is a novelist. Ramsey's first novel, Swimming with Serpents, set against the backdrop of the Creek Indian War, was published in September 2012 by Mercer University Press. The sequel, In Pursuit, set during the First Seminole War, was released in September of 2013. It was followed by On to Angola followed. Then came the cozy mysteries in the Mint Julep Trilogy.  She has a MSE from Troy University in Dothan and a BSE from the University of Alabama. With roots growing deep in the Deep South and her love of all things Southern the website Southern-style evolved.

Ramsey has taught 7th through 12th grades in public and private schools and writing classes in community outreach programs, as well as having served as an adjunct history professor at Troy and Gulf Coast. She has also co-hosted an area radio talk show on politics and education. She is a Christian mother of three and grandmother of five. 

Thursday, December 5, 2019

Amazing Symbolism in the Lion King of the Democrat "Impeachment/Coup" carried out against Our President

The Lion King and the Democrat's Impeachment

Identify the Hyenas. They are those obedient, slavering, bullying pawns of Scar's hatred. They carry out Scar's commands. Scar is the resentful, jealous, hate-filled competitor of the Lion King, the true ruler. 

Scar's plan is to eliminate his brother/competition. At any cost. 

When it is found that Simba did not die with Scar's first attempt (Mueller Report). Scar concocts a lie to convince Simba that he is the cause of his father's death (Impeachment). Simba retreats.

And with Scar's success, the land goes arid. His subjects suffer. All prosperity nurtured by the true ruler disappears.

It does not take much imagination to see the symbolism of this movie displayed in the current political situation. Hillary Clinton is Scar, behind the curtains pulling the strings sending Nancy Pelosi (Shenzi) forth to guide the Hyenas. 

Should this impeachment succeed thus will go our country. All prosperity achieved by the duly elected president of our country will disappear. The new rulers will threaten their subjects into obedience with dictatorial power. The rule of law "innocent until proven guilty" already defunct with Democrats will replace the legal system of our country. 

What an excellent picture of this "Impeachment" (coup) of our president and the potential consequences should they succeed. 

Saturday, September 28, 2019

I wonder where the Republicans are hiding. 

We have a situation where the entire country wants to know where this ridiculous RUSSIA investigation came from. What about those troll farms? What about CrowdStrike? All in the Ukraine? 

When the duly elected president talks to a Ukrainian leader and asks for assistance on a presumed secure phone so that those in his administration delegated to do this search might perform their legal duties, the Democrats in UNISON cry foul. The Republicans sit back with their napkins in their laps and their pinkies raised talking about good manners, fairness and open-mindedness and the Democrats well-trained in the Alinsky method attack with guerrilla warfare. 

THE BEST DEFENSE IS A GOOD OFFENSE and the Democrats know this. They know we are in a battle for the heart and soul of America. The Republicans still play at politics like the Brits in the Revolution with Marquess of Queensbury Rules. 
Where is the outrage over the spy in the White House? Over a traitor (a suspected John Brennan trained, CIA operative) plotting another attack in the coup. This "whistleblower" relies upon a self-described investigative journalism organization bankrolled massively by billionaire activist George Soros. And alarm bells don't go off?
Biden relates: "They said, ‘You have no authority. You’re not the president—the president said’ … I said, 'Call him.' I said, 'I’m telling you, you’re not getting the billion dollars.' And so, Biden implicates Obama who is now complicit in this pay for play scheme. 

But Biden is now doomed to the trash heap of history because of his own arrogant braggadocio. They think they have Trump on the ropes for digging up dirt on a "political opponent", Hillary wants the same protections. The media permits them to frame the argument -- once again. 
As a candidate, digging up truth as to her involvement in the infamous Steele dossier, etc., the coup on a duly elected president, will be considered investigating an opponent in the presidential election. So the Republicans run for the hills.
Paul Ryan now sits on the Fox Board and will try to make Fox into another Joe Scarborough show. Neil Cavuto and Shepherd Smith lead the way. 
The President and a mere handful of Republicans take them on. If the Democrats win, we will be left with pitchforks and torches to defend ourselves against the onslaught of the Democrat attack on speech, borders, the rule of law, the concept of innocent until proven guilty, freedom of religion, the right to bear arms and national sovereignty.

Sunday, September 1, 2019


The other day, I posted this on my Facebook page. The responses to this are quite telling about the great political and social divide in our country. 

One of these commentators is a Harvard educated attorney married to a Harvard educated attorney who have a delightful daughter who excelled in school, probably earning many scholarships, who attended Yale and got a degree in English with a special interest in Shakespeare. 

I am one.  I got a degree in Education/History at the University of Alabama with Masters from Troy
(paid for by my parents) married a man who attended The Citadel and the University of Alabama and also got his law degree there (paid for by his parents).  We sent three children to state schools, the University of Alabama and Troy University, and paid for their undergraduate degrees and they paid for their own Masters degrees. One in Marketing, one in Operations Management, and one in Computer Engineering. Notice these are state universities that we could afford.

Another commentator is the son of a hairdresser who borrowed money for college himself with children who worked hard and made good grades and earned scholarships to pay for their own degrees in fields that would then provide them a good living.

And then all is summed up by a Middle School Math teacher with a degree from a private Baptist college.

All of these people are my friends and I respect them. But the different attitude toward education is quite telling of the political and social divide in this country. You may be able to recognize the Vassar/Harvard educated Hillary anointed Deplorables in this conversation.

MIKE  Sharman Burson Ramsey It’s hard for young people to do what they can for our country when our banks hold them in debt peonage because they had the effrontery to try to improve their education. They didn’t have that problem in Kennedy’s day. In Bernie’s day, they won’t either, because Bernie will make the rich again pay their fair share of taxes. Bernie doesn’t promise free stuff. He promises that the rich will pay their fair share for the stuff we all need.

NORBERT  Mike, I borrowed money to finish college. I worked my way through until I had to have help to finish. I paid it back. I did not look to anyone else, rich or otherwise, to pay off my loan. It took me 7 years to get through college.....I do not want anything I cannot get for myself. It has everything to do with personal responsibility. They borrowed it and gave their word they would pay it back. So pay it back. Like I did.....If they really want to improve themselves, then let them do like my children did. My children applied themselves, studied very hard, made very good grades and went to college on full scholarships. Once there they applied themselves and made the deans list over and over again. My son is completing his PHD in Wireless Computer Networking Cybersecurity on a Department of Defense grant. Because he worked very hard and applied himself. If they want to improve their education, then they should really work at educating themselves. There are oceans of very rich people and organizations that donate hundreds of millions in scholarships available to those will ig to apply themselves.

Sharman Burson Ramsey Debt peonage? In our day people sensibly attended colleges their parents could afford or worked and went to school paying their own way to get degrees in areas they knew were employable. No one expected someone else to be responsible for their own self-indulgence in getting degrees in areas they “loved” but wouldn’t pay the bills. One of my friends got his engineering degree through work-study. Others went into the military to EARN money for college. Bernie promises to take money from working people who have worked hard and earned success to buy votes from semi-literate ego centric narcissists who think they deserve others to support them in continuing their self-indulgence.

Sharman Burson Ramsey BTW Norbert’s mother was a hairdresser with a shop in her home where I grew up knowing her children (including Norbert) because that is where mother got her hair done. A finer woman never walked the face of this earth. Her children all have her work ethic. I am blessed to know them.

MIKE. You folks don’t seem to understand the magnitude of the problem. If you or I had had the level of debt that recent generations are experiencing, we wouldn’t be the Horatio Algers you like to paint yourselves. Young people are saddled with this debt, which prevents them from taking advantage of the opportunities you and I had, because the government allowed predatory lenders to invade the school loan business, after the government withdrew massive support for public education. Student debt now exceeds credit card debt in this country. Did you know that? And there is no escape, thanks to federal legislation sponsored by Joe Biden, which denies bankruptcy protection to student borrowers. You can comfort yourselves with feel good stories about your own escape from relatively minor debt, but a country that cripples its youth in this manner invites a rueful reckoning, especially in a world economy that has recognized that public education should be free, limited only by questions of capacity and merit.

Sharman Burson Ramsey The government is responsible? Where does personal responsibility begin? How did these young people get "saddled with debt"? Did someone put a gun to their heads and take them down to the bank (or wherever) and hold their hand to sign their names to a promissory note? How did the government "cripple its youth" with this debt? 

Feel good stories? My mother took her Sunday school teacher down to the bank with her to recommend her for the debt she incurred borrowing money to go to nursing school. Her mother was a widow with five children during depression years. Mother worked hard to pay that debt that was not to her "a relatively minor debt". If you do not go into a field where you can pay your debt you should not borrow the money! The problem here is with enablers who listen to these whiney infants (who refuse to grow up or take personal responsibility) and continue to make excuses for their bad choices. Mother's was a debt of honor and she repaid it. 

Where has the word honor been in this discussion? Totally missing. The concept of a man's word is his bond has disappeared from the lexicon. Perhaps those spoiled brats ought to get a job that will actually enable them to pay their debts rather than pretending to be such an asset to the world simply because they were born!

"...especially in a world economy that has recognized that public education should be free, limited only by questions of capacity and merit." World economy? Does this world actually promise free education to free loaders? If I had known that I would have stayed in school! My mother and daddy had different expectations, however. 

What kind of world do those of you who advocate cultivating more of these dependents expect to create with this "you owe me" attitude?"

I see the crippling coming from a different front.

MIKE  Sharman Burson Ramsey No, Sharman, your world, around which Trump wants to build a wall, no longer promises free public education to hardworking students. In your world, public education, like pretty much everything else, has been privatized and monetized (Betsy DeVos is one of the predators). But if you will look beyond the wall, you will find that many countries in THAT world do indeed promise free education to their hardworking and very honorable young people. Those folks understand that public education is good for everyone.

NORBERT  Mike, if they have capacity and merit, then they will be eligible for my is all about focus, concentration, persistence and hard work. At the end of the day, there is NO free ride. How much of your income have you put out there for scholarships ????

MIKE:  NORBERT In civilized countries, public education is indeed free and seen as a benefit to the whole society, just like free health care.

Sharman Burson Ramsey With the number coming here to get an education I guess that shows you what that free education is worth.

EMILY You borrow pay it back. Case closed

Why am I reminded of Plato's philosophy on Philosopher Kings being rulers? 

Plato argues that a specific education, available to few, will allow these few to become philosophers. This would create a ruling class that is not representative of the ruled. These philosophers will be the kings. And, of course, Plato was a Philosopher. 

I guess he also would have had the Deplorables supporting that elite.